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Wait... if this is about the Flashpoint preview with the miscoloured XS, shouldn't this be either Retroboot or Elseworlds, not post-FP? - Reboot (SoM) talk page 14:07, 4 November 2012 (MST)

You're right, the scene we care about with XS takes place before the actual Flashpoint event, so this should be Retroboot. I'll make the change.

However, where do we draw the line for the beginning of Post-FP? Do the events during the Flashpoint series and associated issues (Such as Kid Flash Lost) fall into Post-FP or Elseworlds? For Pre-Crisis/Post Crisis, the boundary is issue #10 of COIE, when a new universe is created. The events of Flashpoint are similar to the Mordruverse, where there is one timeline, a brief series of events in a second timeline, and then a third timeline that is ongoing. So we have Retroboot, then the events during Flashpoint, then the New 52/Post-FP. I was considering the actual "Flashpoint" to be the moment at the beginning of the Flashpoint series, after which reality changes, so Post-FP would include most of the series. But as I think about it, both Flash and Kid Flash have memories of the Retroboot universe during the events of Flashpoint, whereas they do not remember the Retroboot when the New 52 begins. So now I can see Flashpoint as either being Retroboot or Elseworlds.

We currently color-code the Modruverse issue as Elseworlds, but the page is in category LSH v4 (Gloritherse) issues. It doesn't realy make sense to create a category "LSH v4 (Elseworlds) issues" for just one member. But Miscellaneous covers categories already exist for both Retroboot and Elseworlds. So, any preferences or thoughts for where the Kid Flash Lost series should go? I'm leaning towards Elseworlds.

- Gopher 03:52, 8 November 2012 (MST)

We went over the Pre-Crisis/Post-Crisis bit before here (although I think there may have been more lost in the crash) - the short version is that the reality formed in Crisis #10-11 isn't actually the Post-Crisis reality, it's a transitional stage that still clearly has Earth-1 rather than Post-C Superman, Luthor, Brainiac, Wonder Woman, etc (with a few Earth-2 guys like Robin & Huntress hanging around too). It's not until All-Star Squadron #60 and Legend of Wonder Woman #4 that things officially settle down to the "final" (yeah, I know) Post-Crisis reality.

As for Post-FP, it's pretty clear - this the double-page spread where Barry Allen's costume changes to the Wally West-style version he's wearing now and he forgets the "old" world is the moment the Post-FP reality "starts". There's some wiggle room before that on whether you want to base on the few Retroboot-style characters still around or call it Elseworlds after the world, but I'd also be inclined toward the latter.

On the Mordruverse issue - we could just put it in Category:Legion of Super-Heroes v4 issues and Category:Elseworlds issues. - Reboot (SoM) talk page 09:56, 8 November 2012 (MST)